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SHORT NIFTY 8000 PUT SEPTEMBER MONTH@68.000

Pawan Tayal at 07:48 AM - Aug 22, 2015 ( ) Views: 2,557

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SELL NIFTY 8000 PUT OPTION SEPTEMBER MONTH @68.00

FOR TARGET OF 40 IN DAYS



From: PAWAN TAYAL at 08:19 AM - Sep 05, 2015( )


IN JUST 14 DAYS WE HAVE INVESTD 32000 IN NIFTY PUT


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Srinivas D at 09:04 AM - Sep 09, 2015 ( )

OK..

Pawan Tayal at 06:52 AM - Sep 09, 2015 ( )

CLARIFICATION

IF WE SELL 7500PUT AND NIFTY COME TO 6500 THEN OUR INVESTMENT RISK WILL BE 1 LAC

Srinivas D at 10:11 PM - Sep 06, 2015 ( )

Dear Pawan,

Please eloborate what is

SELL NIFTY 7500PUT INVESTMENT UPTO 6500 ONE LAC

SELL NIFTY 7400PUT INVESTMENT UPTO 6500 90000

SELL NIFTY PUT 7000 INVESTMET UPTO 6500   50000

I didn't understand. I think what u r saying might be right but it will be helpful if you explain in detailed.

Pawan Tayal at 08:31 AM - Sep 05, 2015 ( )

PUT SELLING TRADE IS ONLY FOR THOSE INVETORS WHO SEEE NIFTY INVESTMENT AS DELIVERY INVESTMENT

FOR NEW INVESTORS WHO ARE INTREST TO INVEST IN NIFTY WITH LONG TERM VIEW CAN ENTER

SELL NIFTY 7500PUT INVESTMENT UPTO 6500 ONE LAC

SELL NIFTY 7400PUT INVESTMENT UPTO 6500 90000

SELL NIFTY PUT 7000 INVESTMET UPTO 6500   50000

Pawan Tayal at 08:18 AM - Sep 05, 2015 ( )

8000 NIFTY PUT CLOSED AT 388

TILL YESTERDAY WE HAVE LOSS OF 68-388=320 POINT

IT IS LONG TERM INVESTORS WHO TRADE IT WITH A VIEW THAT HE HAS TAKEN NIFTY AS DELIVERY LIKE MUTUAL FUNDS

ALL MUTUL FUNDS DECLINE IN LAST 1 MONTH BUT STILL THEY HOPE THAT NIFTY WILL AGAIN 8000 IN NEXT 6 MONTH

IF NIFTY GOES TO 7200 THEN OUR INVESTMENT WILL BE 800

IF ANY ONE WHO TRADED NIFTY PUT HIS INVESTMENT WILL BE 80000

NEXT MONTH PRIMIUM IS AROUND 40 SO WE ARE GETTING 4000 EXTRA EVERY MONTH AS BONUS OVER OUR RISK INVESTMENT

IT IS MY PERSONAL VIEW THAT FROM 7200-7300 MARKET WILL REBOUND TOWARDS UPTREND JOURNEY AND CLOSED ABOVE 8000 IN JUST 6 MONTH AND ULTIMATELY RESULT WILL BE GOOD

Navneet India at 08:30 AM - Aug 26, 2015 ( )

Dear Pawan,

are you trading your this call?

anyone who has been long term in the market will not hold a NF position  from 8300 to 7800. so your theory is wrong. a loss of Rs 50,000 per lot is highly theoritical and if the trader does hold, he will wind up going home soon. its a question of time.

why blame the operators when one can control one's own destiny as to when to exit the position?

i am always puzzled when analysts use Operator as a reason in their trading decisions.

Pawan Tayal at 08:03 AM - Aug 26, 2015 ( )

PUT WRITTING IS MONOPOLY BUSINESS OF OPERATOR

NOW A DAYS INVESTOR STARTED TO ENTER IN THERE BUSINESS AND DUE TO LOSS 75% INVESTORS WILL NOT WRITE PUT AND THEY WILL SUCESS  IN THEIR MONOPOLY BUSINESS

IT IS MY VIEW THAT IN NEXT 12 MONTH ONLY NIFTY PUT BUYERS ARE BENIFITTED

Pawan Tayal at 07:59 AM - Aug 26, 2015 ( )

PUT WRITER ARE MORE PROTECTIVE THEN FUTURE BUYERS

SUPPOSE MR TRADER BOUGHT 

100NIFTY FUTRES@8300

MARKET GOES TO 7800

HIS LOSS IS 50000

WHEN HE WILL ROLL OVER HIS POSITION THEN HE WILL PAY EVERY MONTH 50 EXTRA FOR NEXT MONTH ORIMIUM

IF MR TRADER SUPPOSE WRITE 8100PUT AND THAT TIME @50

IF  MARKET EXPIRE AT 7800 THEN HIS PUT WILL BE 300 AND HIS LOSS IS 250 WHICH IS HALF OF FUTURE TRADERS

WHEN HE BUY CURRENT PUT AND 300 AND GO FOR SELL THEN HE WILL RECEIVE EXTRA PRIMIUM AND HUS 8100 PUT IS SOLD 350-360

HERE WE ARE GETTING BONUS 

THERE WE ARE PAYING PRIMIUM

HERE PROFIT +50

THERE LOSS -50

GAP IS 100

Navneet India at 11:50 AM - Aug 25, 2015 ( )

Dear Umesh,

while your views are nice, even I am supportive of Mr Pawan.

The point here is, "this once in a while kind of mistake", can sometimes prove very costly and i have known traders, who have Lost their 10+ years of trading earning, just in 1 day.

I commit mistake very often while i trade. The point i wish to drive is : a) When/How will we know that we have committed a mistake in Trading and b) Having commited the mistake, when/how should we exit the trade so that the mistake does not consume us. Sadly both the above questions are unanswered in the call by Mr Pawan.

My intention is never to find-fault / humiliate anyone, because each one of us who are travelling the "trader journey" is at different stages of developement, sheerly by way of experience gained through hard-work.

For example : Say Mr X  at his best can run 100m in 15 secs and to whom even to run at 14 secs is going to take very serious efforts,and, there is Mr Y who can easily run the same at <10secs, mostly by way of hard work and with some talent. do you see the difference? the same is applicable to Trading as well.

thx for bringing this up.

Umesh Dave at 11:30 AM - Aug 25, 2015 ( )

 

Dear Friends,

 

- I have read the opening thread and comments by many MUDRAA family members.

 

- As such I am a big admirer of Mr Pawan Tayal, but it seems that unfortunately this time he has

  committed a mistake.

 

- It happens once in a while with everyone.

 

- Why I am saying that it was his mistake? Yes it is because of following facts.

 

- PawanJi always vouches for 3/13 – EMA Positive/Nagative Crossover and insists on trading according

  to this system ONLY.

 

- On 11/8 it gave negative crossover and it lasted for 6 trading days, i.e till 18/8

 

- On 19/8, just for ONE DAY it gave a positive crossover and on 20/8 it never touched 19/8 high. This

  was the clear sign for not going LONG on 20/8 inspite of 19/8 positive cossover signal.

 

- Then 20/8 and 21/8 again it gave negative signal.

 

- He has written / opened this thread on 22/8 ( sat ) morning --- which was not a trading day and it is

  assumed that this call was based on 21/8 closing ( which was by the way 3/13 – EMA negative

  crossover ) than how one can give SELL call of a PUT ???????????????

 

- To wait till Dec’ 2015 is ridiculos. Who has that much patience? Atleast not me.

 

- Last but not least, I have written my observation only

  and I may be wrong

 

- By NO means I want to humiliate anyone

  atleast not my MUDRAA family members.

 

Warm Regards

 

 

 

 

 

 

Omprakash Verma at 11:06 AM - Aug 25, 2015 ( )

@ Navneet

Thanks for the Advice.

Noted and will try for sure.

The reaction was for the word used for others. I clarified there.

Thanks  

Navneet India at 10:38 AM - Aug 25, 2015 ( )

dear Omprakash ji,

i have greatest regards for you as you are one of the old timers in mudraa.

opinion of people such as you really matter to other new-want to be traders who look for directions in their trading career. hence, i request you to offer your support to analysts, in a very judicious manner.

this call by Mr Pawan should have been exited long back. 

thx.

Gongura Katta at 10:33 AM - Aug 25, 2015 ( )

Nice thoughts and advise!

Navneet India at 10:29 AM - Aug 25, 2015 ( )

Dear Pawan & your followers,

without a pre-defined risk assessment, all trades are dangerous. in this case, for a reward of 28 (68 less 40), you have risked more than 340 points appx, which is about 1200% risk (340/28). 

a few days ago, in one of another analyst calls, i had brought about a similar issue which had run over to more than 100% loss (Call Option writing, at about 26 odd, which went more than 55). luckily for the thread owner the call became Zero and all his followers were doing "bhalle bhalle", cooler-smileys and what not. when i warned him / his followers (in the best interest of the followers), he deleted my threads and followers were upset with me.

Now the same thread owner has  given a future buy call of a Bank at 101 (2000u=1lot) and price hit a low of 85 (Rs 30,000+ mark to margin loss). he is thinking of averaging now. all this in the name of Value Buying (Technically, when you make value purchase, you hold for atleast a year and you wont trade for 1 month using futures. this indicates fundamental flaw in analysis). Maybe, he will get lucky and this call will also get into profit mode.  in both the cases, i wish(ed) him / his followers to profit

(you see, they are my co-traders, and i want them to win)

But my question is, AT WHAT RISK?

Remember. In trading, one need not be super-smart than the others, but definitely, must be least stupid than the Most.

Ramanna Mb at 09:39 AM - Aug 25, 2015 ( )

 Omprakash Verma  God Bless You..........

Omprakash Verma at 09:21 AM - Aug 25, 2015 ( )

@ Ramanna

I am one such person who still is in this.

The matter is understanding with the Thread Owner.

ONE ADVICE ONLY IF YOU PAY HEED TO:

Dont call others a FOOL.  INtrospect your own and you will find many acts that will qualify for the word. Please think over.

Ramanna Mb at 08:25 AM - Aug 25, 2015 ( )

From : Sim Stanley at 08:03 AM - Aug 25, 2015 19 minutes ago )

in this strategy it is clearly stated to carry or roll over the shorts until it turns zero

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SS where is it stated to carry untill it turns Zero. and for your kind information no trader is a fool to keep it after a loss of 300 points (i.e Loss of 5 times the investment ).in case if market falls more what will be situation.

Pawan Tayal at 08:19 AM - Aug 25, 2015 ( )

DO NOT GO PANIC

HOLD YOUR PUT

 NIFTY  FOR THE SHORT TERM CAN TOUCH 7500-7300 BUT ULTIMATE TARGET OF NIFTY IS ABOVE 8000 TILL DEC

HOLD LIKE DELIVERY 

IF TOUCH 7300 THEN OUR INVESTMETN WILL BE AROUND 65000 FOR 100 SHARES

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