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As per request i have made this thread for only Base metals.

Crude and other items will be updated on other old thread ........

Funda is simple........sheet is given to every one...trade according to it.

I.e.if buys break out  happens.first see if it can clear the first target..........

i..e.if copper gave a buy above 403.60 in our sheet and now its trading at 403.70..........next target being 404.90.........u buy and hold it as per sl given.

But while going up it failed to break first target.......means its false break out...u have to exit there and short with a sl above first target or second target.As per me, it fails to move above first target means ...it is going to fall...if it breaks first target then u can expect it to rise again

Watch atp.....in commodity items atp plays a major role..it keeps on testing atp between the movements.

Try to buy near atp.............on a break out.........so that ur stop loss is minimum.

i.e.if it gave a buy above 403.60 and now trading at 404.70 with atp at 402.90......there are 2 chances it may keep on moving up or come back to test atp.

if its break out...at 403.60 ,,,,,,safe players should wait for buy near atp instead of buying at 404.70 so ur sl is small.

While big traders can use break out levels also to buy otherwise u may lose a chance to ride the rally.U can afford...but not small investors.

Profit area..Dont look at target..make ur mind for profit and get out for next trades if it is necessary.

Happy profit making trades ahead.

All the best.

Guys,

Please do not use the same sl in crude or any other items which i mention.

Always use stop loss above what i have given in all items.Please give 2 point difference more than my sl.

Ie.if i give a call saying short crude at 4525 with sl of 4528 always use sl above 4528..only or 2 points + 4528=4530

Also for other items always use sl above my levels ...not the same even if i mention it.

There is some positive data from us for base metals..

But they are already in good downtrend...so dont expect any trouble..still u have ur sl in system with manageble positions..

Even Lead will fall towards 132.15 all of sudden.......

So is copper..........

all the best......bye

The following message is not to show that I am superior and smart trader, or chest pumping just sharing some mistakes we traders doing while trading..thats all.

No one is free from emotions...emotions play a big role in trading...it panics.....even I am losing and earning money like every trader........but my small stop losses and managable positions help me in trading better.....

Do u not short a fallen stock/item just because it has fallen too much and scared to short it , rather go for one item which has not fallen....but u think it may fall later.......and short it?

U r wrong mostly...because if one item did not fall because its finding buyers and if oneis falling more and more its just because it finds no buyers...so u should short fallen item without getting scared...

this is the traders mantra.......like copper and zinc are tend to fall more than others..

Just c this example...while i was posting this message......I had shorted zinc lead copper and alu.....

Copper and zinc were most fallen items..from the level of 197+ zinc made a low of 196.30 where i have covered some good profit.......keeping some for next fall towards 195.80 and lower

copper fell 1 points or so from 448...

Alu which was not falling rose to 148.40 from 148.25

lead which was quoting at 133.75 still quoting same.

It means .........

Do u not short a fallen stock/item just because it has fallen too much and scared to short it , rather go for one item which has not fallen....but u think it may fall later.......and short it?

U r wrong mostly...because if one item did not fall because its finding buyers and if oneis falling more and more its just because it finds no buyers...so u should short fallen item without getting scared...

this is the traders mantra.......like copper and zinc are tend to fall more than others..

Already zinc is bleeding and it can test 222 mostly today..........if 225.15 is safe..

all base metals are moving down...so general public tend to short them more and it looks like big money coming in shorts........any time market can run opposite direction also when no one thinks..so dont do a mistake of not putting ur sl in system and ride ur profits.

all the best.This has happened to me many times and so caution......otherwise technically all base metals looking weak and further redy to fall....

Even Aluminium 148.30-45 if 148.90 is safe it can fall up to 145........

all the best

Lead 133.70-85 ..........cmp

if 134.85 is safe...........to day u get 132.15

Today i m later

copper cmp 448

if 449.95 is safe...........u will get 443.10 today

copper cmp 454.40...agai. When it comes to 456.00/456.20 sell WD sl of 458.30 target 448...mind it it has not completed target of 463/464 above 458...so if it again moves above 458 30...it will go for 65... otherwise 48 waiting...do trade tomorrow

Sorry guys copper bad timing n calculation...could not find rally till 59...WD HV been a super call...zinc not triggered....high only 227 25...

Bye...................trade wd sl........

Zinc..............cmp 226.70

risky players sell only at 227.50-65 with sl above 228.20........target 225.30/224.10

trade when comes.

Dnt buy copper...

sell it near 457 wd sl of 458.30 for target of 451.20.......450.80..

copper sl hit 454.20.so it can rise up to 458+ slowly....

buying at current price will have big stop loss ....so we avoid buying now will wait for fall up to 452.20 with sl of 451.50....if comes otherwise no trade.

Copper cmp 453.80..high 454.05..

If high is broken........455.20...455.85-456.0 possible..

if 454.05is todays high then ...4 point fall coming

sell with sl of 454.20...........cmp 453.85...30 paise sl.

Clear move below 49 only copper short WD sl 51.30...target 46/44/42..above 51.70/53.50/56/58/64...range is 65/42

GOOD ANSWER BRO... VERY WELL PLAYED ... THANKS FOR TAKING IT IN POSTIVE MANNER... I WAS LONG AND EXITED AFTER VIEWING YOUR MESSAGE... 

Shiv Prasad at 09:06 PM - Apr 16, 2019 ( )

Paaji warning is given to avoid big qty..when we r shorting a rising item chances r 50/50...so big qty shd be avoided...in my mind small traders r my priority...so I try to gv warning play WD lots which can take care in case of stock loss hitting...If it WD HV been a falling or weak item I won't gv warning...when lead sell was given it was superb bullish

Ur loss is very less u exit n sell at 53.40 WD sl of 53.65 or sell below 48.80..if 53.50 above trade then 54/55/58/63 coming

Sudhakar until it's above 49 chances of 54/58 possible...oncr  it breaks 53.50...better u sell below 48.85..u will get good level like 46.60/44..right now it's 50/50

Paaji warning is given to avoid big qty..when we r shorting a rising item chances r 50/50...so big qty shd be avoided...in my mind small traders r my priority...so I try to gv warning play WD lots which can take care in case of stock loss hitting...If it WD HV been a falling or weak item I won't gv warning...when lead sell was given it was superb bullish

Sir

450.80 par Copper Sell kiya hai

should I hold or exit

regards