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| From : Pradip Ray at 10:35 AM - Feb 05, 2012 ( ) |
Share it on Facebook- Let us discuss market in Trading room . GM to all.
- Face book will be sucking 50K cr (100 Bln $ ) in May. 10-15k Cr in Indian Market by FII last month created the furore . Now this 100 Bln $ in May ! Are the FIIs planning to pull up Indian market to 5400-5500 to sell and collect money for F'bk IPO ?
- Piramal health Care is now in Vodafone. Recently Voda got a handful from the GOI . Look at the move of Piramal Health care.
- Valentine's Day is close by. Which stock to aim at ? Gitanjali ?
- Us Employment vis-a-vis Nickel and Copper ? What is China's role in it ?
- Metal,Capital Goods,Infra and Cement; consolidating and underperforming for a long time ? Have they come out with a vengeance ?
- 2G scam vis-a-vis SBI,PNB,IDBI,Corpn Bank and indian Bank ? Any equation ?
- Tata Global's collaboration with Starbuck ? Result ???
- Aban offshore why the Kolaveri ? Goldmann Sachs !!!
What friends ? Really u do not think these are not relevant issues to address ? Dont you consider they are important to consider if one has to be in the Trading Circuit ?
Decision is of course yours and u may or may not like to participate in the Macro-economic related discussion. But per me these are extremely important now and will emerge as the deciding parameters in a few days unless overtaken by some thing more germane.
And Trading Room discussion is important than only deciding which stock to buy and sell without any rhyme or reason.
nJoy the Sunday. Let me nJoy a movie.
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Greece and China; Dayanidhi Maran. Any thing else ?
Trade news based ???
ATF > Jet
Cabinet approval pending
GDP fig not good. Sudden spurt in NIFTY. Take care,
NIFTY is range bound -a 60-70 points move. Swinging. PCR increased .VIX somewhat subdued. The news appear to have been subsumed or there is churning in individual stocks are taking place notwithstanding the broader Index movement .To morrow also the spot expcted to have sme pattern.
Any pertinent news ?
Topic: Trading Room Discussions
Pls go through this thread and put some relevant point and possible effect of them in Indian market to morrow / day after ..
Greece bail out (bloomenberg); Iran vs US ; any other trade related news ??
I jst vaguely understood, or so it seems, what u wanted to convey. I reiterate to put in a nut shell that rumour and news affect the market more when ppl are not sure.
From : Girdharilal Kuchroo at 11:22 PM - Feb 05, 2012 (36 minutes ago)
may your tribe increase.being slightly challenged,i will take more time to peal the riddles of the supposed truth
may your tribe increase.being slightly challenged,i will take more time to peal the riddles of the supposed truth
Being in the Govt for a long time and being associated with the revenue budget, i can tell u, w/o disclosing the classified things, that it is the rumour mill which work overtime whenever such a situation arises.
After all what is so sacrosanct in a Budget ? The five year rolling plan, ensconed in the much longer strategic plan are basically reviewed on a yearly basis and plugs are tightened to gap any loopholes. There is always an unnecessary hype associated with the Budget.
The Chambers, Industry Associations, Civil society, other pressure groups and stake holders submit their wish list to the govt and in order to show off to their members, publicise via News media.There are many other unpublished area which take place at the back; political,ecological,bi-lateral,fiscal treaties,defence, Strategic. They are not normally discussed in the open but always put tremendous pressure on the market.
Do not give much importance to this annual ritual while trading . It is tecnicals driven by fundamentals-published and potential- which are more important. To this end I request u in plural to go through what i have posted in the beginning of the thread and react.
The federal reserve is having enough un accounted , un audited money lying in their account. Do you ever seen them showing their balance sheet? ? they are the big crooks in the world.Many funds are controlled by this same federal reserve. So the question where this money come from is not a big confusing thing.It comes in differnt name, hedge fund, now qualified individual investor, FII etc.All are joining hand together and pull the market up.As there is no growth in USA and europe, the best thing to do is to park the money where it can be atleast safe.
.The volume is showing clearly one thing, the retailers are not running the show..the casino is blinging only once the machine is opened till then there is not much movement.so if they start to pull out , anything can happen.At the same time what all measures planning in the budget will be known to the well informed people already.So they started to move their card accordingly.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Reserve_Transparency_Act
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Reserve_System
Leena u missed the Facebook part.Or so it appears.I reproduce it below
Face book will be sucking 50K cr (100 Bln $ ) in May. 10-15k Cr in Indian Market by FII last month created the furore . Now this 100 Bln $ in May ! Are the FIIs planning to pull up Indian market to 5400-5500 to sell and collect money for F'bk IPO ?
U must be knowing Face book is coming with an IPO of 100 Bln$ in May. Being an attractive destination to park, many a Broking house would subscribe to it.
Moot point is where from such huge money would come ? A 10,000 odd crore in Jan 12 ( 200 cr $) infusion can take the NIFTY by 15 % (4700-5300). Another 300 Cr $ taken out - and NIFTY goes to 4400. By may ? This was my moot point. Or we can think it from some other angle ??????
1-Face book , honestly i have no idea about the game behind it, after all face book is a good intrument to steal the detailes of your email list, your password, your entire history if a person is really interested.It will expouse you to the world and your entire friend circle. A good invention!A good potential for hackers ,Some hiddden buisness interest if sell the email adress in blocks to any buiness group.
US employment.
Well a very planned manipulated figure realsed on friday , which include the part time labors and those high qualified people working on part time too included to give a robust figure.Two objective,. first , to give an impression to the american people that everything is improving as election is near the corner and obama need a victory.Another thing, the massive hidden dollar america printed ,is pouring to asian market through the hands of hedge funds and their group playing all the game and the epicenter is UK where there is not much restriction for this game.
Regarding starbucks, india is a very good place as ego and showoff play a major role among the youth.
So starbucks will not disappoint the Tata global i think.
Greece which is struggling to find a solution is given less important by the media.The strict measures going to see another public anger in the days to come as the political parties have to agree and to get money from the fund managers, they need written assurance from all political parties. How many of them going to agree and what will be reaction if the wages and all the new measure implement is to be seen.
Wall street journal, CNBC and many main stream media is controlled by the same group and the headline what we are seeing in these media is fixed according to the vested interest these people have in forex, commodity and stock market around the world.
The fact is , if they want the market to go up, all top guys come up one by one and say everything is going fantastic and to support it some govt figures will be displayed.
If they want the market to fall, the iran , greece issues, european economy will be taken out and some funds by mutual ageement will shore up the bond interest rate in auction in any european countries and later some people start to analyse it to a worst case scenerio and will end up giving a conclusion which give an impression that the world is going to end in 2012.
So the role of media is to confuse the public, brain wash them and either make you and me bullish or bearish and the rest of the things these hedge funds people will do.The market now a days act almost like a casino.They introduce lot of automated software free like a test dose and when they realise all the public enter in wrong foot , will trigger the opposite move using the high frequency software and force to trigger the stop loss.For this game many data will appear to give an authentic feel .
The funny part is, most of these are well prepared days in advance!
So this kolavery will continue....
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